Analysis of the Impact of Buying Facebook Likes, You Loose Money, Likes and Engagement with Real Fans

facebook-unlikeI have said a number of times you shouldn’t buy Twitter followers or Facebook likes because you aren’t buying real fans, you are just buying a number. Quite often you may be buying a fake account. Well I thought I would share a real example of someone who did buy some Facebook likes and the results of that purchase.

I am going to change the name of the artist, but this is all real data. I did a consultation call with Lyndsey last year and in reviewing her online world I suspected she might have purchased some YouTube views, Twitter followers and Facebook likes. When I asked she confirmed she had. Six months after the call Lyndsey contacted me because she was concerned because she was loosing Facebook likes. So I did some research.

Looking back over a month of stats I noticed there was no significant increase in unlikes to the page. Actually most days she had 0 unlikes. Looking at the data I saw that people are not actually clicking unlike. In the last month only 4 people have clicked unlike. In the month prior only 3 have clicked unlike. You can view this data on your Facebook Insights Likes page. So people actually clicking unlike was not the cause of the dropping number of likes. My initial feeling was she was loosing likes as part of a overall Facebook housecleaning of fake accounts. This seemed to be confirmed by the fact she had large numbers of likes in foreign countries such as Mexico, Bangladesh, Indonesia, India. Lyndsey is a local artist from Arizona. Facebook over the last couple months had been deleting fake accounts, which in turn drops the like counts on any pages that had purchased likes. It is very likely this is what is happening, the purchased likes are being deleted. Those likes were never real people, they are often stolen or fake accounts. Facebook is just dong some housecleaning. Here is a link to a article about Facebook deleting fake accounts, http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/26/facebook-fake-accounts/

I counted at least 2000 likes that I suspected were fake accounts.

Here is a list of the top countries that Like the page: (remember Lyndsey is a local artist in Arizona)

•    2,759 United States of America
•    1,156 Mexico
•    326 Bangladesh
•    197 United Kingdom
•    163  India
•    48 Indonesia
•    40 Philippines
•    39 Canada
•    36 France
•    35 Brazil
•    32 Spain
•    29 Turkey
•    21 Italy
•    20 Egypt
•    19 Azerbaijan
•    18 Chile
•    17 United Arab Emirates
•    16 Hong Kong
•    15 Nigeria
•    14 Pakistan

I would expect to see the top cities for Likes to be Phoenix and regional to Phoenix. But below are the top cities for likes:

  •    1,122 Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico
  •    511 New York, NY
  •    443 Los Angeles, CA
  •    272 Dhaka, Bangladesh
  •    198 Seattle, WA
  •    144 Miami, FL
  •    144 London, England, United Kingdom
  •    137 Dallas, TX
  •    122 Houston, TX
  •    61 San Diego, CA
  •    54 Denver, CO
  •    53 Chicago, IL
  •    52 Washington, DC
  •    49 Las Vegas, NV
  •    46 Chandigarh, India
  •    45 Brooklyn, NY
  •    41 Atlanta, GA
  •    34 Paris, Ile-de-France, France
  •    34 Superior, CO
  •    29 New Delhi, Delhi, India

All those likes from Mexico, Bangladesh and Indonesia will never talk about Lyndsey, and they will actually hurt her because Facebook saw 6000 likes but only 30 people talking, Four months after this analysis the number of likes has fallen from 6200 to 1800 with 48 people talking. It appears that all the purchased likes are disappearing. Of course you won’t get a refund on the money spent on buying those likes.

The total likes is not what is important. Very few people are actually talking about Lyndsey. This will only increase by developing a full content strategy of what you post EVERY day, and engaging with fans as they get more involved. But, engaging with REAL fans. You can’t engage with fake accounts.You want people talking about you. This is how you grow and get more fans. in Facebook’s analysis (EdgeRank) it says you are not interesting and your followers don’t like your content. The result of this will be Facebook not displaying what you do post to those who actually did like your page. So in the end you lost your money, you lost those fake likes and you actually hurt your ability to communicate with your real fans.

Your Goal Should Not Be The Most Fans, It Should Be Fans That Will Support You

WYRK Draft Day PollI and many others have stated that its not the number of Facebook likes or Twitter followers you have that matters, it is the relationship you have with your followers and the ability to engage with them and get them to convert on a action. 1000 very active fans is better than 100,000 inactive fans.

Here is a nice example of that concept in real life. One of my clients is Curb Records recording artist Andy Gibson. I have been working close with Andy for months on building up his social media world. A couple weeks ago a country radio station ran a promotion on their website, WYRK Draft Day Poll. It was really just a basic poll, vote for your favorite artist. Andy was up against Scotty McCreery, season ten winner of American Idol, Hunter Hayes, Jana Kramer and Kip Moore who’s debut album recently entered the Billboard charts at #6.

The poll was open for 24 hours and the results according to the website were, with 25,037 votes in, Scotty McCreery is the winner of the new artist draft poll getting 10,883 votes edging out Andy Gibson who received 9,357 votes.  Hunter Hayes was third with 3,895, Jana Kramer with 688 and Kip Moore getting 214 over all votes.

But here is where it gets interesting.

Andy Gibson had 8200 fans on Twitter and 14,000 on Facebook, but Scotty McCreery had 508,000 on Twitter and 1 million on Facebook. With all those fans Scotty only had 1,500 more votes. Andy’s fans were a powerhouse in supporting him! He has spent the last six months building a great relationship with his fans. A million and a half fans were nearly beaten by 22,000 fans. Andy actually had the smallest combined fan base on Facebook and Twitter of all the acts. But his relationship with his fans allowed him to easily beat the three other acts.

Stop thinking it is all about a bigger number. It is about the relationship with the fans you have.

What’s More Important, a Facebook Like Or an Email Address? – The Music Biz Weekly Podcast

The Music Biz Weekly PodcastWelcome to episode 38 of The Music Biz Weekly, a weekly podcast co-hosted by Michael Brandvold and Brian Thompson.

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This week’s episode, December 23, 2011 – What’s More Important, a Facebook Like Or an Email Address?

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The Number of Friends, Followers and Likes Mean Nothing if You Don’t Engage With Them

This post by Peter Shankman hits the nail on the head when it comes to discussions about social media.

I have personally been having discussions lately that social media today is like a web site was 25 years ago. It is the hot word, hot topic. Something every marketer is jumping into. Everyone thinks they need to be in social media and quickly jump into Facebook and Twitter with no idea about what to do. Just like companies did 25 years ago when they said they needed a website, so they quickly built one, but had no idea what to do with it. 25 years ago companies measured website success by hits to their site, eyeballs. The dot bomb was proof that eyeballs mean nothing if you are not making money. Social media is the same… a million Twitter followers is useless if you are not making money. Give me 1000 followers who do engage with me and you can keep the 999,000 other followers who do nothing.

It is very easy for someone to hit the LIKE button on your Facebook page, and never bother to come back to your page. Does that LIKE mean anything? No! Friends on MySpace, Likes on Facebook, Followers on Twitter… mean nothing if you are not engaging with them. What is your plan to drive all those “eyeballs” back to your website? And how do you plan to convert them on your website? Why are you just driving people to Facebook, for Facebook to monetize them? Get them to your website and convert them!

What are your thoughts about this? Is there too much attention on the number of Likes, Friends and Followers? Do people “get it”?

I spent a day last week speaking to a Fortune 100 company about the best ways to integrate social media into their marketing plans, and how best to use social media to help their marketing to continue to generate revenue.

The majority of questions they asked me afterward fell into the following categories:

1) So how do we get more followers?

2) So how do we get more likes?

3) Should we hold a contest to get more followers/likes?

4) How do we get our followers/likes to spread the word about us?

These are smart people. These people are the marketing force behind a company that interacts with millions of people through multiple brands every day. These people aren’t stupid – They didn’t just come off the bus this morning.

But you say “social media” to them, and you have the ability to lead them around by waving a shiny object.

Perhaps, short of a cattle prod, we need to start being more forceful not only with our clients, but our bosses as well? Perhaps it’s time to smack some sense into people, and pull back the curtain? The Emperor has no clothes, Oz is a small old man, and they both need to go back to basics.

Basic #1: IT’S ABOUT MAKING MONEY.
If you walked into your boss’s office with a marketing plan that involved spending twenty million dollars on advertising, two Superbowl ads, a bunch of events, and fourteen different venue advertisements in nine cities, and the goal of the plan was “to make people like us,” you’d be kicked out on your ass so fast, it’d make your head spin. So WHY IS IT OK to do the same thing by changing “marketing” to “social media?” It’s NOT! Everything we do in social media should be tied, in some way, to generating revenue. You think that any major company puts together marketing plans without thinking about how it affects revenue? NO! In fact, I was in a meeting with a very large company where the CEO (a brusque, very frustrating man to work with) said it quite effectively: “If you spend one dollar, it better be to make two.” If we really want social media to be taken seriously, we’ve got to start thinking less like social media geeks, and more like effective marketers.

Basic #2: YOU DON’T MAKE MONEY WITH CONTESTS, PROMOTIONS, OR FREE STUFF.
Holding a contest DOES NOT bring in new customers that want to buy. It brings in NEW CHEAP PEOPLE who want to WIN FREE SHIT. Contests are futile for attracting new, spending customers. Want to hold a contest? Do it for the customers you already have! Let the contest work on enforcing your brand in their heads, and making them think about how much they love you. Contests and promotions are NOT a good way to drive new, engaged users, and anyone who says differently is lying.

Basic #3: Number of Twitter followers are the new Penis Envy.
Gary Vaynerchuk said it best: I’d rather have ten followers who engage with me on a regular basis than a million who don’t give a shit. And he’s right. I’m probably one of the only people out there who actively try to GET RID of followers to whom I don’t believe I’m adding value. I’ll actually DM some followers who have never interacted with me and ask them if they’re finding value in my tweets, posts, or the like. If they respond with “no,” I suggest they find other people better suited to following that will provide them with better value. When it comes down to it, the number of followers or fans you have doesn’t matter if nothing you do or say to them moves the marketing and dollar needle in any way.

Basic #4: CONVERSATIONS happen over beers. ENGAGEMENT happens over cash registers. Yes, it’s lovely when a brand converses with me. But you know what? A conversation isn’t going to make me buy. A conversation is something I have with my running partner during my cool-down run about how shitty my non-cool down run was. I don’t want to converse with Nike or Pepsi. I want them to notice that I’m buying their product and reward me. I want them to help me when I have a question, and I sure as hell want them to engage me when I reach out with a problem. Conversation? Leave that for the Friday night bar-after-work scene.

Basic #5: Much like charity, all this stuff starts at home.
When it comes to reacting or putting out fires, social media shouldn’t be your go-to-guy. It shouldn’t be the “Oh, not a problem, we’ll just monitor Twitter” common answer. If you’re really good, it shouldn’t even come to that in the first place, because your company’s customer service was so good to begin with, that it never HAD to make it online! I went to Verizon a few weeks ago to see if I could buy the new Blackberry at full price, out of contract. Was told by the woman at the counter that I couldn’t, even at full price. Right there, that should never have happened. It was obvious that the woman behind the counter was reading from a script. I don’t blame her, I blame Verizon for not letting her be adaptable. So I tweet to Verizon about the stupidity of them not wanting to take my money, calling it a fail. After six hours and no response (why does Verizon even HAVE a Twitter account if they don’t use it,) I tweet again about Verizon failing to fix my first problem, or essentially, a double fail. Two days later, I get an email from Doug over at [PR firm name removed after a very humble request], who handles PR for Verizon, asking what happened. I tell him. Guess what happens? HE DOESN’T RESPOND!! Congratulations, Verizon – You’ve just achieved a triple play of failure the likes of which haven’t been seen since the 1994 New York Mets. Well done.

It’s simple, people. We either get it, or we get eliminated. Bloody hell – Is it really that freaking difficult?

via Are we ever going to “get it?” | The Home Of Peter Shankman.