{"id":4195,"date":"2011-05-06T17:48:29","date_gmt":"2011-05-07T00:48:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelbrandvold.com\/blog\/?p=4195"},"modified":"2015-09-30T18:58:29","modified_gmt":"2015-09-30T18:58:29","slug":"how-to-get-users-and-fans-by-philip-kaplan-who-launched-fkedcompany-com","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelbrandvold.com\/blog\/2011\/05\/how-to-get-users-and-fans-by-philip-kaplan-who-launched-fkedcompany-com\/","title":{"rendered":"How To Get Users and Fans &#8211; By Philip Kaplan Who Launched F#*kedCompany.com"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-4199\" title=\"Screen shot 2011-05-06 at 5.41.17 PM\" src=\"http:\/\/www.michaelbrandvold.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Screen-shot-2011-05-06-at-5.41.17-PM-300x79.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"79\" \/>I got this email in my inbox today from Philip Kaplan\/Pud, that I wanted to share with you. Some of you might ask who is Pud? He started a website back during the dotcom bubble called <a title=\"F#*kedCompany.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.fuckedcompany.com\" target=\"_blank\">F#*kedCompany.com<\/a> that dished the dirt on so many startups, large and small. Pud turned that website into many more businesses, including AdBrite, which you can read about below. His email below has some great tips that all musicians and bands can follow for how to get fans. I love that tip #1 is Start Controversy. I love the idea of getting people to talk about you&#8230; good or bad. Don&#8217;t be boring. The Biz Dev tip is also great, try to hitch your wagon onto someone bigger. Then when you are big enough you can let others hitch their wagon to you.<\/p>\n<p>Read on and tell me what you think.<\/p>\n<p>By the way Pud is also a drummer in <a title=\"Cover Flow on Facebook\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Coverflow?sk=app_2309869772\" target=\"_blank\">a band called Cover Flow.<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hey there,<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s been a million years since I sent one of these, I know. \u00a0Sorry if you missed me.<\/p>\n<p>Today I got my 1,000th email from a new entrepreneur asking me &#8220;<em>What&#8217;s a good way to get users?<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This prompted me to write a more general response, for everyone, which is below. \u00a0Hope you find it useful. \u00a0It&#8217;s most of what I know about this subject.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Credentials (disclaimer: I feel like a douche writing these, but in case you got this &amp; were wondering who this guy is&#8230;really, I&#8217;m just trying to help)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>I made a <a href=\"http:\/\/fuckedcompany.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">blog<\/a> with 5 million readers, an <a href=\"http:\/\/adbrite.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">ad exchange<\/a> that reaches more people than Facebook, and a <a href=\"http:\/\/hitmelater.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">bunch<\/a> of <a href=\"http:\/\/tinyletter.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">other<\/a> weird <a href=\"http:\/\/mobog.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">shit<\/a> that <a href=\"http:\/\/tweetname.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">pays<\/a> the bills. \u00a0A new\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blippy.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">social shopping site<\/a> that&#8217;s growing. \u00a0I&#8217;m an angel investor &amp; advisor to dozens of companies and one <a href=\"http:\/\/syr.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\">university<\/a>. \u00a0On <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/pud\/3832453789\/in\/set-72157622072588152\" target=\"_blank\">several<\/a> magazine <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/pud\/3833248096\/in\/set-72157622072588152\" target=\"_blank\">covers<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MJJHk4hSFB4\" target=\"_blank\">this<\/a> (note view count &#8212; and several comments from people wishing their &#8220;dad was as cool&#8221; as me, sigh, #35butfeel14).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Preface<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>The best sites seem to take of magically by themselves. \u00a0Truth is, every site needs a little kickstart to get to its first 10,000 to 100,000 users. \u00a0Consider this a list of kickstarters. \u00a0But keep in mind the saying, &#8220;nothing kills a bad product faster than good marketing.&#8221; \u00a0You have been warned.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Start controversy<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>In April, 2000, I launched Fuckedcompany.com &#8212; a blog that chronicled the dot-com bust. \u00a0It had 5 million readers per month, a lot of revenue, and I eventually sold it.<\/p>\n<p>Marketing started when I joined a large online community of web designers. \u00a0&#8220;<em>Hey, look at this asshole, what a jerk<\/em>,&#8221; I wrote, with a link to my own site. \u00a0This started a heated debate about the site. \u00a0It seemed like hundreds were participating &#8212; much love, some hate. \u00a0I gracefully ducked out of the conversation &amp; watched 24,000 new registered users join that week.<\/p>\n<p>With Blippy.com, we also chose to go the controversial route. \u00a0Instead of telling people &#8220;this is a good site to tell friends the restaurants you&#8217;re going to&#8221; (which Blippy can do), we went with a more controversial message along the lines of &#8220;broadcast your credit card statements.&#8221; \u00a0This resulted in a huge amount of PR and attention (more on that in the &#8220;press&#8221; section, below).<\/p>\n<p>Keep in mind that your product doesn&#8217;t have to be inherently controversial to stir controversy. \u00a0If you&#8217;re an electronica music artist, hang out with a folk music crowd. They&#8217;ll hate you, which is good. \u00a0If there&#8217;s one new user for every 10 haters, I&#8217;ll take it.<\/p>\n<p>Almost anything can be\u00a0controversial. \u00a0If there&#8217;s nothing that can be controversial about your product, it might be boring.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Viral tricks<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>Address book importers, auto tweets, &#8220;send this to 5 people and get special access,&#8221; etc. \u00a0I&#8217;ve never been a huge fan of this kinda thing but it&#8217;s popular.<\/p>\n<p>One of my sites, Fast140 sends a tweet the first time you use it (with disclosure that it&#8217;s gonna do that). \u00a0Another one of my sites,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/mobog.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Mobog.com<\/a>,\u00a0has an address book importer that lets you invite everyone you know to join. \u00a0Address book importers stopped being effective around 2007, I should actually just get rid of it.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re building Facebook apps or something using Facebook Connect or Twitter, these kinds of tricks can still be effective, though the window is closing on that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Affiliate programs<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>Pay people to send you users. \u00a0This only works, obviously, if you&#8217;re running a pay site.<\/p>\n<p>One of my sites, <a href=\"http:\/\/hitmelater.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">HitMeLater.com<\/a>, has an affiliate program. \u00a0It works a&#8217;ight. \u00a0Running a successful affiliate program is more work than it seems. \u00a0You can&#8217;t just put up an affiliate link &amp; wait. \u00a0Instead, you need to find affiliates, nurture them, run specials &amp; promotions. \u00a0The best way to get an idea of how a well-run affiliate program looks, is to join one like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zappos.com\/associates-program\" target=\"_blank\">this<\/a> or\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.friendfinder.com\/p\/partners\/main.cgi?who=r,bLlY2ikNW9yHsujPn7srMLtdXKQuGWm60tdYG1VKD9Wv931Y6jIUQQmovcYfDNU2nGAg4MxIS9YNkbMLdOXTFF8yDkpuwXaznMA4MgZmPDXXJDXe9IxQx3mCzSpTtP2ghM3fgR_mKshBwSfcQ2KC2g--\" target=\"_blank\">this<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s possible to find an affiliate manager who will work for you for commission only.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Search Engine Optimization (SEO) <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>The great part about search engines is that you don&#8217;t have to do anything &#8212; if you have a good service or good content, Google will generally make sure people find it.<\/p>\n<p>SEO tweaks can increase these numbers. \u00a0But in the early days, SEO is generally a bad way to spend your time; gains will likely be insignificant.<\/p>\n<p>My <a href=\"http:\/\/tinyletter.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">free email newsletter<\/a> service, TinyLetter, is on the first page of Google search results for &#8220;free email newsletter&#8221; (see what I did there?). That generates a fair amount of business. \u00a0All I had to do was give the site a good &lt;title&gt; tag &amp; Google did the rest.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Press<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>Press is one of the best ways to get users. \u00a0The easiest way to get an article written about you is to tell a writer about a good story idea you have. \u00a0Don&#8217;t write a press release. \u00a0Don&#8217;t hire a PR firm.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, think of a compelling story you would like to read. \u00a0Pick a writer who you like, and who you think might want to write about it. \u00a0Tell them your story idea in 2-3 sentences. \u00a0Contact them via email. \u00a0If you don&#8217;t know their email address, guess. \u00a0Also ping them on Twitter and Facebook.<\/p>\n<p>If the writer doesn&#8217;t respond, try a different one. But only one at a time &#8212; they won&#8217;t like you if you give the same story to their competitor.<\/p>\n<p>Also, don&#8217;t just pitch stories about your company. \u00a0Ingratiate yourself with writers by selflessly giving them scoops &amp; ideas for stories unrelated to you. \u00a0Karma.<\/p>\n<p>Bad story idea: &#8220;I just launched a thing and you should write about it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Good story idea: &#8220;Facebook fucked something up. \u00a0Oh and it happens to relate to my thing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Good story idea: &#8220;I just raised $20 million to launch a thing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Good story idea: &#8220;My competitor raised $20 million, yet my thing has more users.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Good story idea: &#8220;My competitor&#8217;s thing is unsafe and could possibly kill you.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Good story idea: &#8220;I&#8217;m not sure if my thing is legal.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Celebrity endorsement<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>Ask someone famous (real-famous or internet-famous) to use your site. \u00a0Have them tweet about it or make a YouTube video.<\/p>\n<p>Get in touch with them through their manager, PR firm, lawyer (a little Googling goes a\u00a0long way), Facebook, Twitter, MySpace page (still effective), whois info, and so on.<\/p>\n<p>Consider offering them some combination of nothing, money, and\/or equity.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;Biz Dev&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>Get a bigger company to promote you. \u00a0At Blippy, we got Sephora to promote us on their Facebook page to 1M+ fans for free, because we did a special Sephora thing on our site.<\/p>\n<p>BillShrink got T-Mobile to <a href=\"http:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2009\/05\/20\/billshrink-gets-major-marketing-love-from-t-mobile-heres-why\/\" target=\"_blank\">promote<\/a> them as an\u00a0independent\u00a0third party.<\/p>\n<p>Think of something cool you&#8217;d like to do with a bigger company and contact someone who works there on LinkedIn, or Facebook via <a href=\"http:\/\/branchout.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">BranchOut<\/a>, which is actually better and free-er for this (disclaimer: I&#8217;m an investor in BranchOut).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Get creative<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.quora.com\/What-is-the-process-involved-in-launching-a-start-up-at-SXSW\" target=\"_blank\">Read about<\/a> Twitter&#8217;s famous flat panel displays at SXSW.<\/p>\n<p>I know a company who promoted a game called &#8220;Shrooms&#8221; by passing out bags of (innocuous) mushrooms at a gamer conference, almost getting arrested.<\/p>\n<p>Richard Branson drove a tank through Times Square to promote Virgin Cola in front of a giant Coke billboard (okay, I&#8217;m not sure if that worked). Hugh\u00a0Hefner\u00a0bought a mansion in LA and invited celebrities to hang out with naked people.<\/p>\n<p>Groupon does a boatload of ROI-positive online advertising (okay, it&#8217;s not that creative but it works). \u00a0YouTube let you embed semi-illegal content into MySpace pages. Facebook &amp; Digg made widgets that got thousands of sites pointing back to them. \u00a0Evite threw big parties with the catch that you had to RSVP using Evite.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conclusion <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>I hope you enjoyed this list of ways to promote your website. \u00a0One final tip: As entrepreneurs, we obsess over our products. \u00a0Try to forget about your product for a couple of weeks, and instead obsess over how to promote it.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; pud<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I got this email in my inbox today from Philip Kaplan\/Pud, that I wanted to share with you. Some of you might ask who is Pud? 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